SIDE BY SIDE

Compare mantic systems

Read systems against shared questions to identify common language, procedural differences and distinct limits.

Read differences by dimension; historical evidence labels do not imply predictive validity.
Dimension七政四余与五星星命 ↗国家星占与天象占候 ↗
FamilyFate calculation and astral nativitiesCelestial omens and signs
InputsEphemeris, epoch, time zone, coordinates and interpretive textChronology, observation, textual locator and omen commentary
Procedural structureCalendrical and textual conventions determine celestial and other system-specific positions; these are placed by palace and lunar lodge and read through condition, aspects, motion and time periods. Traditions differ on the four auxiliaries, house systems and time lords.Observers recorded time, direction, color, duration and motion, then linked the event through star offices, terrestrial fields, phases and inherited omen statements to rulers, war, disaster or harvest.
FormationStabilized in China during Tang-Song through indigenous and Indo-Iranian elementsEarly records in Shang-Zhou; systematized in Warring States-Han and long institutionalized
Evidence labelsTextually documented · Cross-cultural formation · Contested lineage or dateExcavated evidence · Textually documented
TextsGuolao Xingzong / Xingming Suyuan / Xingxue DachengRecords of the Grand Historian, Treatise on Celestial Offices / Book of Han, Treatise on Astronomy / Yisi Zhan / Kaiyuan Zhanjing / Mawangdui Wuxing Zhan
LimitsIt uses real celestial positions, but natal judgments are not conclusions of modern astronomy. A direct transmission from Zhang Guo has also been questioned by bibliographers.Historical observations have value for the history of science, but their political prognostications are not thereby validated by modern astronomy. Observation and interpretation must be separated.
Research questionWhich sources support position calculation and which support interpretation?Where does observable description end and political interpretation begin?